Bachman Spectrum 2-8-0 Consolidation

By Don Strack

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(This article is an updated and expanded version of an article published in"The Streamliner", Volume 12, Number 3, Summer 1998)

The Bachman Spectrum 2-8-0 is available, and it's a nice one. But is it UP? Well, not really. According to comments in the April and May 1998 issues of Model Railroading magazine, this is a generic Baldwin "catalog" locomotive, with 60-inch drivers. In the early years of this century, from about 1900 to about 1910, the largest builder of steam locomotives in the world, Baldwin, built so many 2-8-0 Consolidations for so many customers (the 2-8-0 was the GP9 and SD40-2 of its day) that the company started with a basic boiler and frame design and changed it to match the individual customer's needs. These changes included air compressor and air tank locations, running board placement, steam and sand dome placement, and of course, cab design. Two of these customers were Southern Pacific and Union Pacific, both under the common management of E. H. Harriman. SP received 156 locomotives of this type between 1905 and 1907. During the same time period, Baldwin built 257 for UP and its OSL, OWR&N and SPLA&SL (later LA&SL) associated lines. All were classed as C-57 locomotives, meaning Consolidation, 57-inch drivers.

So, is it UP? No, the wheelbase is about two feet too long. Although the Bachman model is lettered for UP (OWR&N) 721 (a smaller, cylindrical-tendered oil burner built by Baldwin in 1903), it is well painted, and runs very well. Buy it , run it, it looks great with Centralia Car Shop's CA-3. Maybe renumber it, or even put a different tender on it -- you'll not be sorry.

Other reviews state that the locomotive is based on the Illinois Central 900 class, the PRR H8, H9, and H10 classes, and Reading's I10 class. These reviews are in June 1998 Model Railroader and July 1998 Rail Model Journal. Both reviews are excellent.

The following comes from The Streamliner, published by Union Pacific Historical Society, Fall 1998 issue:

Spectrum 2-8-0

I take exception to the review of the Bachmann Spectrum Consolidation. Is it UP? Absolutely not! The only UP I see in it is the notched rear edge of the cab roof (but the cab can't be used anyway because it is too short). One could make a fair representation of the UP Consolidations that were modified with Walschaert valve gear and widely-spaced valves (like No. 560 on page 37) by changing the pilot, the front stairs, the stack, the sand box, the firebox, the cab, and of course, the entire tender.

It is not true that when Baldwin built the UP Consolidations, they "started with a basic boiler and frame design and changed it to match the individual customer's needs." These engines were built to the Common Standard or Harriman Standard design. Identical engines were built for UP and SP from designs provided by the Harriman roads, not by Baldwin, and identical engines were built by ALCo. The Harriman Standard engines were similar to engines built in 1902 and 1903 for SP, but with slide valves.

One obvious and unique feature, used by the Harriman roads was the cylinder block as shown on No. 3615 and No. 300, page 37. You will never see that cylinder block anywhere else. You might also investigate how many other roads used the unusual drive-axle spacings of 64", 60", and 64" of UP's 2-8-0s and the 57"-drivered 2-8-2s.

I hope you can do a little better than this in the future.

Ed Miller
Broomfield, Colorado

The following comes from The Streamliner, published by Union Pacific Historical Society, Winter 2000 issue:

Q304 - What UP locos can be modeled with the Bachmann Spectrum 2-8-0?

A304 - The short answer is - none! The basic problem is that the model has 62 inch drivers, and the largest UP 2-8-0 drivers were 57 inches. While the 5 inch diameter difference doesn't seem like much, that difference and the driver spacing results in a driver wheelbase that is almost two feet too long. That, in turn, results in a locomotive that is longer, taller, and "fatter" than the typical UP 2-8-0. The model has a simplified version of Baker Valve Gear, which would be correct for four OSL locomotives; however, the cylinder configuration is correct only for locomotives with Walschaert Valve Gear. If a modeler was willing to accept all the dimensional differences, the valve gear hanger and link could be modified to resemble Walschaert gear, which were used on OSL 525-539 and OWR&N 718, 719 and 722. Other modifications to re-size the sand dome and relocate it and the bell would be required, as well as adding number boards and a third window on each side of the cab. Finally, the tender would need to be replaced with a 7,000 or 9,00 gallon cylindrical or a 9,000 gallon rectangular tender to get a locomotive that "resembled" one of the OSL or OWR&N locos.

Comparison of Bachman Spectrum 2-8-0 Consolidation with UP prototype.

  Quantity Engine
wheelbase
Height
over stack
Boiler
inside diameter
Driver
diameter
Bachman   26' 6" 15' 9" 79" 60"
           
UP 201-310 110 24' 4" 15' 8" 78.5" 57"
OSL 560-618 59 24' 4" 16' 78.5" 57"
OWR&N 730-765 36 24' 4" 15' 9" 78.5" 57"
LA&SL 6009-6060 52 24' 4" 15' 8" 78.5" 57"

In all cases, the Bachman tender needs to be changed, as the rectangular design tender is about four feet too long. The tenders on UP's Consolidations varied, as shown in the following table:

  Type Water
(gallons)
Coal
(tons)
Height
(over tank)
Height
(over fuel bunker)
Body
length
Overall length
(drawbar-to-coupler)
Bachman Rectangular     10' 12' 28' 9" 33'
               
UP Switching Cylindrical 7,000 7 10' 1" 12' 1"   28' 6"
UP Road Cylindrical 7,000 12 10' 13' 1"   30' 6"
UP Road Cylindrical 7,000 14 10' 1" 13'   28' 6"
UP Switching Rectangular 9,000 14 10' 11' 10" 24' 11' 28' 9"
UP Road Rectangular 9,000 15 10' 13' 3" 24' 11" 28' 9"
UP Road Cylindrical 9,000 14 10' 12' 11"   34'

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