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The following description of a Ramsey Transfer Apparatus comes from the April 9, 1881 issue of the Cincinnati Enquirer newspaper.

The Ramsey Car Transfer Apparatus by which cars are transferred between railroads of different gauges, or trucks removed or placed for repairing purposes without raising the car body, is a device and patent of R. H. Ramsey, Philadelphia, and is now in successful operation between a number of roads. It is used at Cincinnati between the Cincinnati Southern (5-foot gauge) and the Cincinnati, Indianapolis and Chicago Railroad (4 feet 8-1/2-inch gauge). Cars have been transferred at the rate of ninety seconds per car. Ordinarily, four men can transfer from twenty to thirty cars per hour.

Several of the transfers are constructed upon a general grade of from forty to fifty feet to the mile, and are operated entirely by gravity. Broad and narrow gauge cars pass over the apparatus alternately, each car connecting with the trucks left by the car in advance, and run to their respective sidings below, with no other motive power than gravity and without the use of skilled labor.

The principle of the apparatus is simple. It consists of a pit about twenty inches deep, with rails of both gauges centrally located, and on each side a narrow track built upon the walls of the pit, bearing trucks, called transfer-trucks, which run under the sills of the car body and support it while being transferred. Cross-bars, resting on the transfer-trucks, are used to support narrow car bodies. The trucks of a different gauge are run in the depression previous to the arrival of the car, or left there by the car in advance, and by passing the car body over on the side tracks, it becomes disconnected with its trucks at the first of the incline and connects with the trucks of a different gauge at the opposite incline.

Where a number of cars of one gauge require transferring, the trucks for that number, or part thereof, are placed in the pit (this can be done before the train arrives), after which the car bodies pass over the apparatus, each car leaving its trucks at the first incline and taking from the opposite incline the trucks of a different gauge. Trucks are removed from the depression by turntable or switch to sidings adapted to the location.

(Read Robert H. Ramsey's U. S. Patent 204087 from May 1878) (This design used a pit to make the transfer)

(Read Robert H. Ramsey's Reissued U. S. Patent 8259 from May 1878)

(Read Robert H. Ramsey's U. S. Patent 304562 from September 1884) (This design used cylinders and a turntable to make the transfer)

The following comes from "Report on Observations on Railways and other Subjects made during a Tour in 1883" by H. C. Mais, Engineer-in-Chief. Made during a trip to Europe and America that lasted seven months and three weeks. Report summarized in the May 6, 1884 issue of the South Australia Register News Pictorial.

There is a contrivance in constant use at Bell's Gap, near Altoona, Pennsylvania, where the bodies of coal cars are transferred from the 3 ft. 6in. to the standard 4 ft. 8-1/2in., and vice versa, by means of a pit with an incline in it at each end laid with the two gauges. On the top of the pit are laid two rails of a wide gauge, which carry the wheels of the bogies supporting the body of the car, which is pushed along the pit, and in passing along the one set of bogies fall away from the centre-pins, and the other set being ready at the other end of the pit, are attached to the centre-pins as the car leaves the pit, so that by this means the bogies only are changed in a very short time - under five minutes.

Although there are several patents issued in England and America for this purpose, the principle is not in practical working. The Ramsey Carbody Transfer, constructed by the Bell's Gap Railroad Company in the spring of 1881, has been in successful operation since that period, transferring daily an average of fifty bodies by hand. The Transfer in on a grade of 1 in 100, worked by gravity, and the maximum capacity is 100 tons daily, costing per ton for transferring five cents per ton.

Josh Bernhard wrote the following on June 24, 2024.

Denver & Rio Grande had a transfer crane for swapping trucks in Pueblo, for the benefit of the Santa Fe. Once the main line from Pueblo to Denver was standard gauged this practice was abandoned. They also had jointly-used Ramsey Transfers in Salt Lake City and Ogden, shared with the Union Pacific who also owned the narrow gauge Utah & Northern and Utah Western. Recall that in the 1880s the D&RG purchased an entire class of reefers that were designed for truck swapping in Ogden to travel over the Central Pacific. Newspaper articles indicate that a lot of standard gauge traffic was simply truck-swapped for the trip across the D&RGW/D&RG mainline until the RGW standard gauged in 1890. The Salt Lake City Ramsey Transfer was not removed until 1902, because the RGW owned the narrow gauge Utah Central to Park City and the UP didn't standard gauge its Stockton branch (Utah Western) until that year.

For about two decades hundreds of Ramsey Transfer devices and transfer cranes operated across the United States wherever a narrow gauge and standard gauge line met. These were mostly lost when the narrow gauge lines were abandoned or standard gauged by the early 20th century, and it became apparent that interchange traffic was not common enough to warrant such an expensive piece of machinery.

Ramsey Transfer at Pocatello

The following comes from George Hilton's American Narrow Gauge Railroads.

The newly established junction caused Pocatello to become the operating center of the Union Pacific's subsidiaries in the area. The narrow gauge into the Montana mining region proved successful beyond anyone's expectations, but the traffic was now typically transshipped to standard gauge cars at Pocatello, rather than sent on to Ogden. The Union Pacific installed a Ramsey Transfer so as to move standard gauge cars north. The UP sent about 100 narrow gauge gondolas from its South Park Line to move coal from Wyoming to Butte via the Ramsey Transfer. This arrangement, as usual, proved a bottleneck. About 750 tons of freight were transshipped per day in November 1885. Plans for standard gauging the line north of Pocatello were made about that time. As on other narrow gauges, bridges were widened and standard gauge ties installed. The Union Pacific was no longer interested in destinations north of Butte, and arranged with the Northern Pacific to turn the line from Butte to Garrison over to a jointly owned subsidiary, the Montana Union Railway, on August 1, 1886. The Montana Union Railway was converted to standard gauge immediately and made part of the Northern Pacific's alternate main line via Butte. The Union Pacific retained trackage rights from Silver Bow into Butte even after the track was turned over to the Northern Pacific's exclusive ownership in 1898. (ed. note: UP leased the line to NP for 999 years, and still retains ownership today.)

Moved From Pocatello To Salt Lake City

The change in gauge north of Pocatello, from three-feet gauge to standard gauge, was completed in July 1887.

The change in gauge south of Pocatello was completed in September 1890, including 48 miles of new line in northern Utah that bypassed the original Utah Northern line through Logan.

These changes in gauge north and south of Pocatello in 1887 and 1890 suggest that the Ramsey Transfer at Pocatello may have been moved to Salt Lake City after 1890.

Ramsey Transfer At Salt Lake City

June 25, 1889
Salt Lake & Fort Douglas -- John W. Young Letter to Ramsey Transfer Apparatus Company; inquiring as to terms, etc, for two such devices. (Letter, JWY to Ramsey Transfer Apparatus Company; 743 Drexel Building; Philadelphia, June 25, 1889, Letterbook, MS 1237, box 4, fd 5, LDS Church Historian's Office)

(The letter above indicates that John W. Young knew of the Ramsey Transfer at Pocatello, and wanted one for his Salt Lake & Fort Douglas line in Salt Lake City, to allow standard gauge cars on the Union Pacific's Oregon Short Line to be interchanged to destinations on his SL&FD line. D&RGW was still narrow gauge at this time, but would soon be converted to standard gauge.)

January 1892
The narrow-gauge (former Utah & Nevada) district of the OSL&UN was operating standard-gauge cars on narrow-gauge trucks for the salt traffic between the south shore of the Great Salt Lake and Salt Lake City. The change in trucks is being made at Salt Lake. (Salt Lake Daily Tribune, January 1, 1892)

(The salt traffic from the Great Salt Lake was important to OSL and Union Pacific, and to RGW. Salt was vital to the smelting industry in Utah and in Montana and Colorado, and was used as a flux in the smelting of lead, silver, gold and copper. The economical movement of salt to the smelters included reducing the cost of transferring from narrow gauge cars used on the OSL&UN's narrow gauge line west from Salt Lake City, to standard gauge cars for interchange. Changing trucks using a Ramsey Transfer was almost certainly part of those cost reductions.)

December 11, 1900
"Steel Gang Arrives." "The outfit cars of the steel-laying gang of the Short Line came down from the north yesterday, and the cars were 'Ramseyed' to the Garfield branch so the men can be staked out along the line and commence to lay track. This, by the way, will probably be the last change over the Ramsey car transfer which has been a curiosity in the Short Line yards for so long but which is rendered useless when the Garfield branch is made standard." (Salt Lake Daily Tribune, December 11, 1900)

Narrow gauge operations west from Salt Lake City ended in November 1902, having been replaced by the new standard gauge Leamington Cut-off west from Salt Lake City to Lynndyl by way of Tooele and Stockton.

November 16, 1902
"End Of Narrow Gauge" "When the little Mogul pulled the narrow gauge train into the city last night ...," "... her trip was the final one over the narrow gauge, which will at once be abandoned." (Salt Lake Daily Tribune, November 16, 1902)

December 10, 1902
In the OSL yards, the Ramsey Transfer device is gone, as are the tracks for it, and the other narrow gauge yard tracks; standard gauge yard tracks have been laid already in their place. "All the narrow gauge equipment has disappeared and the rails are almost obliterated." (Salt Lake Daily Tribune, December 10, 1902)

"The Oregon Short Line is laying tracks across South Temple street into the property recently acquired. The tracks are on the tangent from North Temple street and occupy the space formerly held by the 'Ramsay' and narrow-gauge tracks. Six new tracks, in all, will run down the entire length of the two blocks, thus giving a large amount of storage space. The new track south of the center of South Temple street is nearly finished, and, when ready, a new curve will be made back of the gas works for the Leamington cut-off and a new line for Saltair trains into the old Garfield depot. All narrow-gauge equipment has disappeared and the rails are almost obliterated." (Salt Lake Daily Tribune, December 10, 1902)

(The Sanborn Fire Insurance map for Salt Lake City in 1898 [sheet 29] shows the combination of standard gauge and narrow gauge tracks in the area between North Temple street and South Temple street, including a grouping of dual gauge tracks. Although not exactly accurate in its showing of track layout, the map shows a good representation of where the Ramsey Transfer was most likely located.)

More Information

Ramsey's Car Truck Shifting Apparatus -- Information about the Ramsey Transfer at Mid-Continent Railway Museum

"Building an HO/HOn3 Ramsey Transfer" by George Pierson, Narrow Gauge & Short Line Gazette, March-April 1998, Volume 24, Number 1, pages 40-44 (Includes prototype photos and diagrams)

(Read the Wikipedia article about the Ramsey Transfer Apparatus)

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