UP Cars Sold To Mexico

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Overview

A total of 39 former Union Pacific passenger cars have ended up on the railroads in Mexico. Many are sleeper cars, and others are coach cars.

Mexico's railroads, and sleeping car service in Mexico have gone through a lot of changes since the 1940s. The following brief narrative may help an understanding of Union Pacific's part in these changes.

1948 Sale

February 29, 1948
The following comes from the February 29, 1948 issue of the Wyoming State Tribune newspaper:

U. P. Train Is Sold to Mexico -- The Union Pacific has sold an old streamlined, diesel powered train to the Mexican government. The train was the original City of Los Angeles and has been subbing for the Cities of Denver on the Denver-Chicago runs while they were being shopped. (Wyoming State Tribune, February 29, 1948, courtesy of Jim Ehernberger, January 27, 2011)

1986-1987 Sale

October 1986
The following comes from the January 1987 issue of Pacific Rail News:

"In October [1986] a group of 20 Union Pacific passenger cars was placed in storage, including coaches, sleepers, boiler-dorms, lounges, diners, the dome coach and instruction cars. While this may reflect a cost-cutting measure on the UP, it remains to be seen if this will affect the availability of equipment for specials such as Old Timers or Junior Old Timers conventions next spring, or Rocky Mountain Railroad Club excursion planned to operate out of Denver next May." (Pacific Rail News, Issue 278, January 1987, page 32)

The following comes from a person who was in UP management during the late 1980s.

In 1986, certain people in UP's top management noticed that Drew Lewis and his wife were taking an interest in the Heritage Fleet cars and engines. Jack McDonough had been trying for years to get the company to get rid of the cars. He used an outrageous cost estimate for conversion to HEP as further ammunition, and that fit right in with the scheme. The idea was to get rid of as much of the fleet as possible, to keep Lewis from putting money into it and operating it more. The intent was to get down to 14 cars or less.

About 18 or 20 cars were sold to Mexico, maybe more, including a baggage, a dome coach, five coaches, several diners, cafe lounges, sleepers, a club lounge, and some business cars. A number of other cars, including the ex MP cars, and two of the boiler dorms were scattered around the country in other sales at about the same time.

Lewis stopped the sell-off before they went even further than that, and later began buying cars, but a lot of damage had already been done. Some of the cars sold were not much of a loss, such as the three business cars 110-112. But the dome coach, the five flat coaches, the lounge, the lunch-counter car, and a few others back are sorely missed for our current operations. We lost almost half the cars we had in the fleet at the time.

As a side note, the sell-off of passenger cars was accompanied by a panic to get the 4023 off UP property before Lewis could discover it belonged to the UP. That started the ridiculous tug of war between UP and the City of Omaha that resulted in Kenefick Park being built. The City didn't want the engine or the Park, and refused to take any part in it or to maintain it. So, in desperation, UP bought the property, built the park, maintained it the entire time it existed, and paid to have it torn down in 2001 to make way for Abbott drive to be rerouted and the entire site of the Omaha shop was being redeveloped. The abject fear of having another operating steam engine is the driving force behind the present [2004] circus to put the 4023 and 6900 out near I-80 and as far away from track as possible.

January 19, 1987
On January 19, 1987, Union Pacific sold 25 retired passenger cars to Mexico. A delegation from NdeM visited Omaha in early January 1987 to inspect the passenger cars that were for sale. The cars had been stored at Fox Park since November 1986, and included two boiler-dorm cars, a buffet, a diner-lounge, five coaches, a lounge, a dome coach, a baggage-recreation car and three sleepers. (Pacific Rail News, Issue 281, April 1987, page 37)

The list of cars sold:

February 1987
The following comes from the February 1987 issue of CTC Board magazine:

Passenger Fleet Cut In Half ... In a surprising move, UP sold nearly one-half of its passenger car fleet on January 19 to the Nacionales de Mexico. This sale leaves UP with 38 passenger cars, of which 12 are business cars and several are company service cars. It also greatly reduces the ability of UP to offer the extensive excursion train service that they have done in the past. N de M has been looking to purchase a large quantity of used passenger equipment for some time, but it was not thought that they had the ability to pay the current market rate for excellent equipment such as UP rostered. N de M had also looked at the Alaska Railroad's cars last fall but was apparently unable to offer acceptable terms.

March 1987
UP ran a business special to Mexico in March 1987. The consist was UP GP40X 93, and cars Cabarton, 205, and MP 8. (Pacific Rail News, Issue 283, June 1987, page 24)

June 26, 1987
UP delivered 21 passenger cars to NdeM at Laredo, Texas on June 26, 1987. The special train left Omaha on June 23. Included were business cars 110 and 111, along with two MP boxcars of spare parts. The special train (SCBLD) was led by UP C30-7 2413, with business car 112 at the rear end, with officials of both railroads on board. (Pacific Rail News, August 1987, page 6; October 1987, pages 31, 32)

Included were UP business cars 100, 111, and 112. Planned but not actually sold were boiler-dorm cars 300 and 301, and business cars 108 and 125. UP 125 was an ex GM&O car, and sits on blocks at Omaha shops. (Pacific RailNews, October 1987, page 32)

Twenty-one (21) UP passenger cars sold to NdeM during 1987: MP 20, MP 11 "Eagle", UP 110, 111, 112, 203, 204, 211, 1601 "Sun Cape", 1607 "Sun Point", 1609 "Sun Ridge", 4000, 5000, 5472, 5474, 5475, 5484, 5486, 5716, 6206, 7006. (Pacific RailNews, June 1988, page 38)

(Four cars, UP Business Car 108, Business Car 125, and Boiler-Dormitory cars 300 and 301 were either removed by UP from the group to be sold, or rejected by NdeM for unknown reasons)

Car Number Cross Reference

UP Car Number to Mexico Car Number

Mexico
Number/Name
UP Car
Number
Car Type
KCSM "Monterey" UP 8009 Dome Diner (AC&F, 1955)
SCD 365 "Club Atoyac" UP 6206 "Portneuf River" Lounge (AC&F, 1949)
FNM 366 "Expresso Del Mar"
(later FNM 371 "El Yaqui")
UP 7006 Dome Chair (AC&F 1955)
SCD 379 "Club Sonora" UP 6102 Dormitory Club (AC&F, 1949)
SCD 629 "Navarra" MILW 33 "Pacific Bridge" Sleeper (Budd, 1949)
SCD 630 "Aragon" MILW 35 "Pacific Guard" Sleeper (Budd, 1949)
SCD 631 "Galicia" MILW 34 "Pacific Cruiser" Sleeper (Budd, 1949)
SCD 632 "Versalles" MILW 36 "Pacific Harbor" Sleeper (Budd, 1949)
NdeM 701 "Monte Blanco" UP 1212 "National View" Sleeper (Pullman-Standard, 1956)
NdeM 702 "Monte Sinai" UP 1211 "National Shores" Sleeper (Pullman-Standard, 1956)
SCD 713 "Peten" UP 1301 "Ocean Sands" Sleeper (AC&F, 1953)
SCD 714 "Palenque" UP 1304 "Ocean Scene" Sleeper (AC&F, 1953)
SCD 715 "Cholula" UP 1305 "Ocean Sunset" Sleeper (AC&F, 1953)
SCD 724 "Toledo" UP 1507 "Placid Sea" Sleeper (Pullman-Standard, 1956)
SCD 731 "Aranjuez" UP 1509 "Placid Valley" Sleeper (Pullman-Standard, 1956)
SCD 732 "Mallorca" UP 1503 "Placid Haven" Sleeper (Pullman-Standard, 1956)
SCD 733 "Segovia" UP 1505 "Placid Meadow" Sleeper (Pullman-Standard, 1956)
SCD 734 "Cordoba" UP 1706 "Star Vale" Sleeper (Pullman-Standard, 1956)
SCD 735 "Cadiz" UP 1707 "Star View" Sleeper (Pullman-Standard, 1956)
SCD 736 "Iztaccihatl" UP 1601 "Sun Cape" Sleeper (AC&F, 1949)
SCD 737 "Popocatepetc" UP 1607 "Sun Point" Sleeper (AC&F, 1949)
SCD 738 "Paricutin" UP 1609 "Sun Ridge" Sleeper (AC&F, 1949)
NdeM 2281 UP 5716 Baggage (AC&F, 1957)
SCD 3592 "Monte Alban"
(later KSCM "Ciudad de Mexico")
UP 110 Business Car (Pullman, 1926; UP, 1944)
SCD 3593 "Agualeguas" UP 111 Business Car (Pullman, 1926; UP, 1943)
SCD 3676 "Durango" UP 4809 Diner (AC&F, 1949)
SCD 3680 "Zitacuaro" UP 4814 Diner (AC&F, 1949)
SCD 3673 "Nuevo Leon" UP 5000 Lunch Counter Cafe Lounge (AC&F, 1949)
NdeM 4207 UP 5472 Chair (AC&F, 1954)
NdeM 4208 UP 5474 Chair (AC&F, 1954)
NdeM 4209 UP 5475 Chair (AC&F, 1954)
NdeM 4210 UP 5482 Chair (AC&F, 1954)
NdeM 4211 UP 5484 Chair (AC&F, 1954)
FXE 149015 UP 7011 Dome Chair (Pullman-Standard, 1958)
  MP 11 Sleeper (Budd, 1940; MP, 1971)
  MP 20 Instruction Car (Budd, 1948; MP, 1970)
  UP 112 Business Car (Pullman, 1926; UP, 1944)
  UP 203 Instruction Car, ex UP Coach 5341 (Pullman-Standard, 1941)
  UP 204 Instruction Car, ex UP Coach 5335 (Pullman-Standard, 1941)
  UP 211 Instruction Car, ex UP Diner 4807 (AC&F, 1949)
  UP 4000 Cafeteria Lounge (AC&F 1955)

Sleeping Car Service in Mexico

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More Information

Pullman in Mexico -- Information on Tom Madden's Pullman site

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